It looks like Debian's been impacted by the popularity of Ubuntu. They just released etch-and-a-half, which for the first time in Debian's history, is a update to a stable version of the distribution that includes new packages to support newer hardware. I am impressed. I'm not planning on going back to Debian for my laptop or desktop (the sauce Ubuntu adds to Debian is quite tasty), but it's a good step for Debian to make. (I remember having to build custom install disks to get Debian stable to boot on new hardware, it would be good never to have to do that again... =)